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13.7.4 :-? Tea
Unfortunately you kill your own argument about knowledge being abstract or not when you say it would
upset APPLIED MATH majors… Math is the abstract knowledge
of numbers, APPLIED MATH is the use of that knowledge.
More to the point of the debate, however is the problem of viewing asynch conversation as simulated
(your implieddefinition is not real ("Would you rather see…"). As
opposed to being an entirely different form of communication. Evenonline bisynch, (now simple called
synchronous) communication is not the same as face to face.
Giving either type ofdiscussion or conversation weighted values of good, better, bad, worse is at best
irrelevant. You are basically sayingthat and an apple is better then
an orange.
Thomas asked us to decide if this course provides sufficient evidence that online conferences can produce
equal orsuperior outcomes then discussions in traditional
seminars. The question is quality, yes, BUT about the ability of a typeof discussion to produces productive
content (as opposed to the value of the type of discussion –
a rather hair splittingdetail, but I think an important one). Here in truth I think Anthony has said
it best "the color is grey". While the quickand rapid free form of ideas
that occurs in face to face is missing in async conversations, they do provide for possiblymore thoughtful
, informative and detail oriented comments. Like most of
things in life there is a bargain to be struck. Astudent must choose how productive to make either
of these types of conversations. The decision on how toparticipate
and how well they do participate depends a great deal on how the learn, and how they adjust their learningstyle
to format presented.
Does this class provide sufficient evidence either way, not really. We don't know the results of this
class and we do nothave access to a similar live seminar and its
results to evaluate the results. Until we have that information, that data, thenwe are back to comparing
apples to oranges, both are very real, both provide nutrition, both
are considered healthful,and whether one works better then the other depends strictly on the user and
the need.
Lastly, you imply that reality is always better – sometimes reality bites. 8^D
That's way fiction is so popular…????…
Tea
From Britiannica.com
Abstract, adjective
Main Entry: 1ab·stract
Pronunciation: ab-'strakt, 'ab-"
Function: adjective
Etymology: Medieval Latin abstractus, from Latin, past participle of abstrahere to drag away, from abs-,
ab- + trahereto pull, draw
Date: 14th century
1 a : disassociated from any specific instance <abstract entity> b : difficult to understand :
ABSTRUSE <abstractproblems> c : insufficiently factual : FORMAL
<possessed only an abstract right>
2 : expressing a quality apart from an object <the word poem is concrete, poetry is abstract>
3 a : dealing with a subject in its abstract aspects : THEORETICAL <abstract science> b : IMPERSONAL,DETACHED
<the abstract compassion of a surgeon --
Time>
4 : having only intrinsic form with little or no attempt at pictorial representation or narrative content
<abstract painting>
American Heritage
ab-stract (ab-strakt, abstrakt)adj. Abbr. abs. 1. Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstractconcept.
2. Not applied or practical; theoretical: See Synonyms
at theoretical. 3. Difficult to understand; abstruse:abstract philosophical problems. 4. Thought of
or stated without reference to a specific instance: abstract words
liketruth and justice. 5. Impersonal, as in attitude or views. 6. Having an intellectual and affective
artistic content thatdepends solely on intrinsic form rather than on
narrative content or pictorial representation: abstract painting andsculpture.n. (abstrakt). 1. A statement
summarizing the important points of a text. 2. Something
abstract.v. tr.ab-stract-ed, ab-stract-ing, ab-stracts (ab-strakt). 1. To take away; remove. 2.
To remove without permission;filch. 3. To consider (a quality, for example)
without reference to a particular example or object. 4. (abstrakt). Tosummarize; epitomize. 5. To
create artistic abstractions of (something else, such as a concrete
object or another style):"The Bauhaus Functionalists were ... busy unornamenting and abstracting
modern architecture, painting and design"(John Barth).[Middle
English, from Latin abstractus, past participle of abstrahere, to draw away : abs-, ab-, away. SeeAB-1
+ trahere, to draw.]--ab-stract'er n. --ab-stract'ly adv
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